Islamic violence erupts in Australia

You don’t need to be Einstein. You don’t need to be Nostradamus.

All you have to do is look at the facts.

And then you will not be surprised, at all, when sectarian Islamic violence spills into Australian streets.

Then, when you factor in the rapidly growing Muslim population in this country and multiply it by the civil war that has raged in the Islamic world since its Dear Leader shuffled off from his mortal coil, you will know that there is only one trajectory possible.

More violence. And it will drag in real Australians.

The ABC has reported on this. So has Today Tonight. And so has The Age, as has The Global Mail.

But politicians across this country, in parties large and small, ignore the danger. Very few outside the Australian Christians or Rise Up Australia Party are prepared to risk an Islamic backlash. Winning the Islamic vote is considered critical – not just for this election but the next.

There will be three types of violence in this country.

Firstly, the Islamic community at large will harbour those who will threaten, injure or kill Australians because they are not Muslim.

Secondly, within the Islamic community there will be sectarian war. This will make the bikie wars of old look like child’s play. Much of this conflict will be driven by arguments over who hates us the most.

Thirdly, some Australians will take the law into their own hands and retaliate against Muslims.

None of these forms of violence are in the interests of the Australian community. But unless Islamic immigration is stopped dead in its tracks, they are all inevitable.

If you want a catalogue of targets for intra-Islamic conflict in Sydney, all you have do is search Facebook. The enemies are identified. Their business addresses are listed.

And so are the battles and results. Comments are gleefully made when stores change hands.

Supposedly, these lists have been drawn up to allow Sunni Muslims to peacefully boycott the Shia businesses they hate. But the reality is that these businesses are being harassed, intimated, threatened and forced out. Violence has occurred to make this happen and violent retaliations will result.

No doubt, somewhere there are similar lists circulating amongst the Shia community.

The catalyst has been the Sunni/Shia civil war in Syria. In itself, it is a continuation of the conflict fought by Muslims for Mohammad’s crown. And it began almost as soon as he died.

You might remember the war in Syria is the one supported by hundreds of Australians fighting with al Qaeda linked groups. There may well be just as many fighting with Iranian and Hezbollah linked forces supporting the Assad regime.

These young men certainly don’t make it a secret.

For instance, in this Facebook post, one boasts of returning to the war in 23 days. He says it’s for humanitarian reasons. But his Facebook page also states that Shia are cancer, to be cut out. Doesn’t sound very humanitarian to me.

One day, these men will come back. And they will bring their experience and hatred with them, adding fuel to a fire already simmering on our streets.



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Author: Bernard Gaynor

Bernard Gaynor is a married father of nine children. He has a background in military intelligence, Arabic language and culture and is an outspoken advocate of conservative and family values.

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  1. I’ve had a vision to start my own unique, one of a kind Religion. It’s one of peace and love. But in scripture, there is an “option” to kill those who aren’t part of my religion or offend my prophet if one so chooses..

    Wait a minute, that’s Islam (not really but you get the gist).

    Jim hit the nail on the head. While Islam is claimed to be about peace, it also has teachings about killing in the name of Allah of non-believers or those who disagree or insult etc. what Jim said is correct, while the Majority of Muslims choose to be peaceful, there are always those who will follow the Koran to the letter, hence ISIS and other “extremists” are out there… In Australia too. Islam is claimed to be about peace, but has the “option” for killings.

    For instance, why did that young Australian Teen (and many many others) leave Australia to join ISIS and spout such hatred even though his parents are supposedly “peaceful” and they claim him to be a “good” boy?

    Well I don’t have an answer to that BUT, peaceful and tolerance are two different things. One can be “peaceful” yet intolerant at the same time. It’s when you have a culture of intolerance (“peaceful” Muslims) at home in private, or in a mosque, or protesting in the streets of Sydney, or Melbourne, or France, Chanting “death to (insert name)”, or “police are pigs” or holding signs of “behead all those who…” Or “we want Shira Law” it begins to breed a culture of hatred in the extremist Minority. Thus there will ALWAYS be killing in the name of Allah, or protests with chanting, or teachings in the mosques or family discussions of following Shira Law. But, it’s the little things that inspire hatred. These small intolerances they discuss with their kids, or is preached in the mosque, or is protested about – that inspire this hatred.

    And as Islam is allowed to go unchecked, so too will these attacks on freedom. Islam may be about peace, but it is not about freedom. Shura Law is not about equality. Islam is not about tolerance.

    Once the whole world is of the same Muslim sect, or dead, then there shall be peace.

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  2. Once again we just watched what an Islamic “Warrior” is capable of.
    What motivates him and other Islamist s?
    Let’s allow the Koran to speak for itself. Below is what Google turns up from the question:

    Re Infidels does the Koran teach “Convert or Die”?

    Take a look at some direct quotes from the Koran, see for yourself….Convert or Die oh Infidel!!!

    Qur’an:9:5 – “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

    Qur’an:9:88 – “The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah’s Cause”

    Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

    Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

    Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

    Qur’an:8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”

    Ishaq:587 “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace.”

    Qur’an:8:65 “O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding.”

    Qur’an:9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.”

    Ishaq:578 “Crushing the heads of the infidels and splitting their skulls with sharp swords, we continually thrust and cut at the enemy. Blood gushed from their deep wounds as the battle wore them down. We conquered bearing the Prophet’s fluttering war banner. Our cavalry was submerged in rising dust, and our spears quivered, but by us the Prophet gained victory.”

    This is just the tip of the Iceberg to see the rest of Muhammad’s quotes: Prophet of Doom

    Get the Hint? Convert or Die….Know your enemy

    To discover two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted to Muslims under certain circumstances,
    Google taqiya and kitman. It could explain why there is so much public denial from Muslim Leaders

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  3. Personally I hate all religions as all the way from the beginning religion has caused nothing but WARS because people will always say that their religion is the best one and will fight to try and convert other people to their way of thinking . I do not understand what gives anyone the right to do so , and that includes all these so called religions where people force their Children to from door to door and try and sell their religions .
    I do not subscribe to any religion due to the fact that they do nothing but become very, very rich ( Catholics ) with their ridiculous ideas about Child birth control, abortion and divorce etc. and various other types that try and sell their religion . Everyone has the right to believe what ever they want to but do not have the right to force others to change to change .
    I am now 73 years of age and have been married for 52 years and have brought up 3 Children whom are very successful due to our struggle throughout our life always very short of money, but they always came first, so that they were better prepared for life than we were .

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    • Here we go again these bastard Arabs holding hostages in Sydney, as long as we have these mongrels in Australia we will have lots of problems and I know this is a bit tongue in cheek but they should ALL be put inside of the DOG fence and a bounty put on their heads, this would reduce the unemployed and also get rid of a lot of these Arabs form the general population. They will never intergrade with the Australian way of life and will only build their own enclaves where they can plan all sorts of problems against OUR country AUSTRALIA .

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  4. the muslim religion is the true religion of the devil and his followers. The muslims and all that embrace the devil and his religion are the greatest risk to the future of this world. If there is ever going to be peace the muslim religion and its people must be arraticatied off the face of this earth because the devil and his followers will never stop until they arraticate us and wipe us all non muslims from the earth.

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  5. Are any of these Muslim lovers Aussie or trolls. Can’t bloody believe we have people in our midst that say they are Aussie and preach this crap. Thank god Tony Abbott is on the hustings and making it quite clear that TPV’S will be handed out in retrospect . Yay

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  6. well said Jim.
    No reply hey Tara? You have no valid reply simply because Jim’s last comment is clear cut truth. No surprise if you can’t handle the truth – not many people can nowadays.

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  7. Tara, Tara, Tara …. where do I start? Having read your latest never-ending monologue – I can understand why you are divorced – the condescending, paternalistic, unrealistic garbage that fills your never-ending diatribe is a sure indicator as to the reason no man would stay married to you forever, petal. I’m not going to waste time on a fool who, when warned by the messenger about the peril that approaches the city walls, calls the messenger hateful, hurtful and horrid. Get this through your thick skull: there are hundreds of thousand of mohammedans throughout the world who do not want to be friends with you – they do not want to join with you in peace and harmony – they have no interest in debating with you the merits of atheism and religious detachment. They want to kill you – because you are a filthy kaffir. And they want to kill your kids. And me. And my wife. And my kids. They want to kill everybody who is not exactly in accordance with their particular take on islam. That, of course, means they also want to kill other muslims as well as you and your kids – which they do in great abundance all around the world, every day. The sooner you realise there is nothing hateful in me saying these things – because this is the truth – the sooner you will start to understand the reality of the age in which we live. Time to stop living with the fairies, hippy, and learn what life is all about. You blew your marriage because you are a complete twerp – don’t make a similar mistake in relation to islam.

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    • Wow! What a complete and utter psychopath you are, Jim. I’ve seen blood-soaked Muslims behave with more class.

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      • Spiro – let me see if I’ve got this right. Two mahommedans attack and butcher a British soldier on the streets of London, then dance about gloating about what they have done, with their victim’s blood all over hem. I tell Tara that these murderous bastards mean what they say and do not want to discuss any solution other than “convert to islam or die”. I also warn Tara that there are hundreds of thousands of other muslims just like them all around the world (including about 30 in jail here in Australia, who were convicted of plotting to commit similar crimes in the name of their vile religion). Your response: I’m the psychopath! Mate – people like you and Tara are absolutely unbelievable. The extent of your collective denial is approaching certifiable. How blind are those who refuse to see!

      • Would you like a napkin for all that froth?

      • Spiro, are you trolling or just retarded?

    • Jim, where do *I* start, lol? How about I respectfully request that you not refer to me as “petal” after calling me condescending.

      I guess what it comes down to is that I don’t judge an entire culture, the entire following of a particular religion by the actions of a minority of extremists. That’s basically it. I don’t deny that there are extremists who do want to do exactly as you described, of course there are, we read of their actions nearly every day in the news. But they don’t represent the views of all Muslims.

      I think it best to leave it at that.

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      • Tara – this is where you are making a huge, common mistake. The mahommedans who attack and murder are not extremists. They are simply following specific directions and commandments contained within both the koran and the Sunnah that very clearly direct them to act with extreme violence against anyone who is different to them. And that is the problem – those koranic / sunnah references are always there. They will never be removed. So although most muslims choose to ignore these commandments and directions – some choose to follow them to the letter. And you never know which muslims they will be. I can guarantee you that, of the 40,000 or so mahommedans who have poured into this country since the twin idiots Rudd and Gillard opened the gates to let them just walk in, some will be prepared to attack anyone who is not exactly the same as them. Of the rest – some will have children who, in turn, will select violence and intolerance as their modus operandi. And of the vast majority of muslims who choose to ignore the violence – you never see them protesting against the acts of their brothers, do you? This problem does not exist in any other religion. That is why Islamic migration is so problematic – it guarantees that, some time in the future, Islamic scumbags will attack Australians within Australia in order to obey what the Koran and the sunnah command. These attacks by muslims on Australian citizens are guaranteed – because of the inherent nature and content of islam.

      • Geez…if you believe that you can get along with PEOPLE WHO DESPISE EVERYTHING YOU ARE then good luck . The road to hell is paved with good intentions but I would think that anyone with children would not tolerate the threat posed to their children because of political correctness. I say to anyone who lives in a “devout” muslim area to pull your head out of whatever orifice it currently resides and protect yourself and your children because the time will come when “they” rise up against some real or imagined slight and kill the lot you.

  8. If Islam is so vile, so evil, so destructive why is it that approx 1.7 Billion people follow it? Australia’s Islamic population is just under 2% and you guys think they are going to take over and change the fabric of Australian society? This site and all those condemning Islam are ignorant, uneducated and uncultured. Don’t believe me check the following about how a Republican Preacher from Texas converted to Islam. It’s not my view to convert anybody to Islam BUT my point is there are wider views and evidence than what is selectively shown here. All this site does is it uses a strategy of fear it deal in lies and worse, finely calibrated half-truths; it fuses fact and opinion. Educate yourselves try travelling overseas to some of these Muslim nations like Indonesia, Turkey, Malaysia, India has the largest population of Muslims in the world. Instead of using populist propaganda and hate sites try looking for independent reviews. Not much difference between what this site does and the likes of Osama Bin Laden recruiting terrorists stating Christians and Jews hate Muslims and want to kill all Muslims. Not much difference in the message, only the words.

    Check this video out by independent person.

    Priests and Preachers converting to Islam :-

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    • Azreal – if numbers mean anything – convert to Christianity right now – because there are more Christians than mohammedans. There may well have been more mohammedans now than Christians – but muslims keep killing each other, don’t they? How many muslims were killed by fellow mohammedans in Iraq last week? And the week before? And the week before that? And will be killed next week? Islam is not the religion of peace – it is the religion of pieces: the bloody pieces of women and children that it mutilates every day. Abandon the enslavery and horrors of islam, Azreal, and renounce the stranglehold that vile “religion” has upon you – you know you want to!

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  9. And I’m not fading, by the way. Ageing, perhaps, I’ll take that on board willingly, but my age has also brought me experience.

    Fear and intolerance are probably the biggest causes of war throughout the history of mankind.

    If we could grow a pair, learn a bit and accept that, as educated (Jim excepted) humans we can rise above such petty crap, then perhaps we’d all learn a lot about life.

    Also, and I’ve been so polite until this point, you, Jim, are a prat.

    But I want cudos for my amazingly awesome use of commas there. I’d also appreciate also cudos for not swearing so far, despite really wanting to.

    And, Mr Gaynor, if you tell me god bless once more I shall get cross. I have nothing to say to your god. Your god, as you espouse him is a hypocritical tosser. I grew up with many devout and loving Catholics. They would weep at your words here.

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    • Tara, don’t be too upset by Jim. Bernard has some pretty insane followers, but he is the craziest by far.

      A warning though, he is probably going to tear you to shreds for spelling kudos with a c. If you’re lucky, he’ll keep it under 1,000 words.

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      • Pete, omg, am now tearing myself to shreds for that spelling mistake, lol! I deserve anything I get hit with for that one *headdesk*!

  10. Tara – I’ve just read your final paragraph properly and fully. You ARE an ageing, fading hippy, aren’t you? You say that you and your husband are divorced (another failed marriage – one of the great curses of the age in which we live) – that you sent your kids to a Catholic school – and that your son was told by a teacher that you would “go to hell” because of your divorce. Well, cupcake – if you don’t like Catholic religious instruction – don’t send your kid to a Catholic school! What did you expect a Catholic teacher to say at a Catholic school? “Little Johnny – your parents can divorce and remarry and divorce and remarry as much as they like – we Catholics are cool with that!!!” If you don’t like the message – don’t stand next to the messenger. What a joke! Good luck with your “love-in” with your islamic soul-mates. Just remember – the reason muslims end up killing people who are NOT like them is because their religion COMMANDS them to do so. Every single scumbag muslim killer can quite rightly point to all the decrees in the Koran that COMMAND them to do exactly what they are doing – which you foolishly, stupidly and naively believe you can convince them to cease doing because of the wilted flowers in your grey, fading, hippy hair. A pot of green tea and few verses of “Kumbaya” will only make you look more stupid than you already are. Here is the epitaph for your tombstone: “But I meant well!”

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    • Jim, I’m not surprised that someone has replied to my comments as you have. I do realise that the views you have espoused are quite common in Australian society.

      It’s a little bit sad that you felt that you had to resort to personal attacks on me to debate my point of view, but it’s also to be expected of you and your ilk.

      I have no so-called “love-in” with Muslims. I probably am what some would call a bit of a hippy, but possibly not in the way that you described it. I am very firm in my views on what is fair and not fair, right and not right. I would never tolerate anyone telling me I should die because I don’t believe in their deity, and I would, if absolutely necessary, resort to violence to protect that right.

      I’m just not quite sure why you think it’s the Muslim community that is espousing this view of violence and intolerance. Just read your own post – how full of hate and intolerance do you sound? You say the Muslims are full of hate and violence, but just read your own words on my divorce and Catholic school experience. Could you be more hateful and blind if you tried?

      It’s not really any of your business, but for the sake of this discussion I will explain why I enrolled my son in a Catholic school. I happen to believe in and live by the morality of the tolerant views as expressed in the New Testament. I was new to this country, wasn’t sure of public schools, heard some horror stories, and my ex husband went through the Perth Catholic school system. We always agreed it would be a test case, and when my son was told that we agreed that we didn’t want him brought up with such exclusive views and removed him from the Catholic school system.

      My marriage may have “failed” as you so eloquently put it, however 13 years later we are still very close friends, share care of our children and are very supportive parents. We both work full time, are tax payers, and do the right thing by our children and to each other.

      I am eternally grateful for how my amazing parents raised me. They dealt with sectarian religious violence their entire lives, they grew up in Belfast. My grandfather was murdered by the IRA. I get sectarian violence.

      Guess what? Despite what my parents grew up with they were ok with me dating a Catholic bloke in my early 20s. Why? He was a good person. It was so hard for them, with what they grew up with, accepting their protestant daughter dating a catholic. But they were intelligent enough to not judge a person by the faith in which they were raised, despite the violence they both grew up with.

      I KNOW there is a lot of violence within the Muslim faith in Australia and elsewhere. I do not dispute that. But it’s not limited to one faith or one culture, it’s endemic in many cultures. Just look at the archetypal bogans – your redneck, intolerant, ill-educated bogans. They are the ones spreading hate in our society, and they’re doing it out of ignorance and fear.

      But it’s people like you and Mr Gaynor, with your hate, your sweeping generalisations and your fear, fear above all else, who are making this a big deal.

      Why are you so afraid? Stop being afraid of what you don’t know and learn a bit about it, take some personal responsibility for your thoughts and stop relying on hysteria and, well, man up, dude!

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  11. Tara – what the heck are you on about? Muslims are fighting muslims (as they do every day around the world, with deadly results in a high majority of cases) – Bernard makes the point that this happening in Australia – and you blame him for “a sad interpretation of Christian values”. What sort of drongo are you? Since when did Bernard telling the truth (something most of the media avoids like the plague) become “a sad interpretation of Christian values”? Tara – people like you are a disgrace. Violence is occurring daily on Sydney’s doorstep (thanks, Malcolm bloody Fraser!) and you get stuck into the MESSENGER? You bleat like some fading hippy from the 1960s as follows: “Surely the best response to these problems is one of tolerance and peace, and encouraging communities of all faiths to find a way to live harmoniously in this great nation, not just singling out particular faiths and demonising them.” What a fool you are! You then go on to make one of the most sad, misguided and pathetic utterances I have heard for a long time: “If our Muslim citizens were treated more as “Australians” by society and not defined purely by their faith, perhaps we would find ourselves on a path to a better society, and perhaps even the different sects within religious faiths would feel supported in putting aside their differences.” You just don’t get it, do you? The mahommedans who are fighting each other and who are fighting in Syria and who fight in Iraq and in Libya do NOT want to put aside their differences and do NOT want to ‘feel supported’ by the likes of you. What they want, Tara, is your bloodied, hacked head in their hands – just like they wanted the head of Drummer Lee Rigby – which they got. There is no happy ending to any of this, Tara. If you think you can become friends with active islamists who believe their religion will rule the world – you’re a foolish fruit loop and a complete idiot. Time for you to take a double dose of reality pills, hippy, and smell the frightening, foul stench of reality. And stop blaming Bernard when all he is doing is telling it how it really is.

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  12. I did try to use paragraphs, your blog ate them, sorry 😀

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    • Tara, I suggest that you look at “The radical Islamic threat” on YouTube. You will see a devout Muslim Doctor warning against the spread of radical Islam in Western countries. He has written proof of the Islamic agenda that is to force all non-Muslim populations to convert to Islam, by infiltrating their countries in large numbers and using those countries own laws to defeat them.

      The internet is awash with Muslim acts of extreme violence against non-Muslims, especially women. Is that really what you want for Australia? Perhaps you have already converted to Islam and that is why you seek to defend what is historically a violent and depraved “religion”, although I fail to understand why any female with a shred of intelligence would do so.

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    • Hi Tara – sorry about that. I’ll see if I can get paragraphs for comments.

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  13. Oh, Mr Gaynor, no matter what your views on this may be, the image you used at the top of this post is beyond words. The crosshairs? Really?

    Are you honestly trying to encourage violence towards Muslims? If not, please say so and explain what led to that choice of pictures.

    I honestly didn’t think you could surprise me any further, however you have done just that.

    This post is utterly dispicable and shows a sad interpretation of Christian values.

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    • Hi Tara. Thank you for visiting and commenting. If you read my post you would have noticed I said it would not be good for anyone if Muslims were targeted. I mean that. However, the cross hairs are there for a reason. All those addresses listed are a target. They are not my target and I’m guessing they are not yours. But they are on a list that is circulating and which is used in an intimidatory and violent sectarian Islamic campaign conducted by Sunni Muslims against Shia Muslims in Sydney. And I have no doubt that it goes both ways as well. This conflict between Shia and Sunni started the day Mohammad died. The cross hairs signify this ugly truth. In Australia, right now, Muslims target Muslims. And it will only get worse as the Islamic population grows.

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      • I’m not disputing the fact that there are sectarian issues within the Muslim community, both in Australia and overseas, but surely adding fuel to the fire on this one isn’t the answer.

        You appear to be merely exacerbating the problem by trying to get non-Muslim Australians to live in fear of our fellow-citizens, just because they are “different”. Please don’t forget that Christianity and other religions also have plenty of sectarian issues which often lead to violence.

        Surely the best response to these problems is one of tolerance and peace, and encouraging communities of all faiths to find a way to live harmoniously in this great nation, not just singling out particular faiths and demonising them.

        When a religious minority feels singled out as a negative influence on society what possible positive behaviour can come of that? If our Muslim citizens were treated more as “Australians” by society and not defined purely by their faith, perhaps we would find ourselves on a path to a better society, and perhaps even the different sects within religious faiths would feel supported in putting aside their differences.

      • Hi Tara. I’m not trying to scare people but I do think they deserve to know the truth. Our government continues to preach that Islam is a religion of peace. It’s not. Our Defence Force continues to send men to their possible deaths in an effort to defeat Islamic violence with military power, while the Islamic population in this country grows rapidly. That’s stupid. The Islamic religion is built on the concept of being singled out. It doesn’t matter how much we play nice, in Islam it is always us and them; always the house of war and the house of peace’; always those who are Muslim and those who are not. And in Islam, it is always a contest internally for power. Because at the end of the day, that is what Islam is all about. Power.

      • With respect I’d suggest that only the Islamic extremists see things as you’ve just described, and they are a minority in the faith.

        By tarring all Muslims with an extremist brush you’re only going to encourage more extremists.

        I do appreciate that you view this from a military point of view, given your background, but surely you can see that the main threat to the ADF and their allies is from extremists, not from your run-of-the-mill average Muslims.

        When it comes right down to it the Christian faith is also built up on the “we are right, you are wrong” premise. Colonial missionaries were given the same brief – go and save the infidels. You can’t deny the torture and pain this caused many indigenous cultures during the height of the British Empire, not least in our own country.

        My own son was told by a teacher at his Catholic primary school that he would be going to hell because his father and I divorced. Whether or not this view is endorsed by the Catholic church is irrelevant. My son was told this at a young age and it affected him hugely.

        I was raised Anglican myself, but have since “seen the light” and turned to atheism, or, perhaps, humanism. I don’t in any way want to curtain the rights of anyone else to believe in the deity of their choice, but I also don’t want their choices to be forced upon my lifestyle or beliefs. I think Christianity and Islam have many views in common, and yet there are extremists on both sides who seem to focus on the negative and xenophobic side of things.

        Let me put something to you. Let’s say our planet got invaded by hostile aliens next month. Yes, I know it’s a stretch, but just work with me.

        Don’t you think that when faced with a common enemy or threat, you being a military man, that all of the races, cultures and faiths on Earth would not band together to fight this threat? I’m pretty sure we would.

        So why can we seemingly not do that when the threat comes from within our own cultures and peoples? Is it not truly Christian to rise above trivialities, borders and beliefs and try and find a common ground where all of “God’s” creatures can find a way to share this planet together?

        Even if you read that and immediately cast it aside as some airy-fairy pie-in-the-sky nirvana, isn’t it a worthy goal to aim for? The worst thing that can happen is that the aliens don’t turn out to exist and we’re all much happier and more coherent.

        I do get that you see a threat, and I actually do appreciate why you see it that way. I’d just like to respectfully point out that there is a large portion of the population who can see ways around that that don’t involve guns, bombs or hate.

        Tolerance, acceptance, working together – these are not out of our reach. It’s posts like the one above that are going to drive the minorities to back themselves into a self-protected corner of extremism and do the worst.

        Seriously, when you make people feel feared and threatened they will turn into exactly what you accuse them of.

      • Tara how can you possibly justify Islam as a peaceful religion. Dont worry about what other religions did hundreds of years ago. Just concern yourself with today. You must open your eyes and see Islam for what it is. Any religion that can incite hundreds of thousands of its followers to violence can not be condoned, accepted, tolerated or practiced. The shear numbers involved in violence in this cult does not indicate a minority group. Unfortunately Bernard is correct in saying that Australians will not tolerate this nonsense and violence will more than likely occur. The world is fed up with Muslims and their bullshit. To suggest that Islam is a peaceful religion is laughable and it surprises me that you are unable or unwilling to see the facts on every television, radio or smart phone in Australia. Muslims that wish to leave their homeland and come to Australia do so because they hate their country. Why then do they do their best to change this great and tolerant country into the mess they just left? If these violent cowards were to harm a family member of yours for religious reasons Im sure you would take a very different view. Bernard is also correct in stating that the Islamic cult will always protect it own whether they are peaceful, violent or indifferent. Why this government panders to Islam is beyond me.

      • Tony, Bernard, and everybody, History gives us examples and lessons to learn from, so I don’t think that I should do ‘pick and chose’ from it. ISIS is still minority and does not represent except themselves and some ignorant people who unfortunately are Muslims. I’m a Muslim and as millions like me who don’t agree with ISIS and are peaceful. Muslims are 1.6 billion making about 23% of the whole world’s population so 30,000 of ISIS is nothing to make a generalization here. Christians killed Christians too across the history also many same religion followers killed each other, but it still not a justification for Muslims doing that but it is a clarification that this is the nature of mankind. It is an example of being a peaceful religion that even in the time of war we were ordered not to kill a woman, child, religion man, and an elderly, not to burn a house or cut a tree. Islam has brought civilization to the world by ordering of freeing the slaves and that everybody is equal to God, also started all types science and knowledge that is still affecting our life nowadays. I would like you to think once, what if Muslims disappeared from this world what would happen? I’m sure that the blame will go on another group or belief as this is the human nature always fighting each other and unsettled. Please read more about Islam and ask and talk to Muslims to create a more justice in your opinions and judgments, and remember that love and understanding each other will make us all go through those hardships in life peacefully.

    • I agree Tara. Sarah Palin used a similar clumsy tactic and look what happened to Gabrielle Gifford. Revolting ,lowest common denominator, cynical politicking. Par for the course for Mr Gaynor.

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    • Dear Tara
      How is islam & and Muslim a peaseful if you have the courage look raound you now in an islamic nation if you say that Jesus is God, you are put to death , if you kill somebody you are jailed but if you say Jesus is Lord you die.

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