The Anti-bogan, Islam and rape

There is a bleeding-heart webpage called the Anti-bogan.

Now, this may come as a surprise, but some of the activity that the Anti-bogan page ‘outs’ I also agree is wrong. Which means that even I think bleeding-hearts can be right sometimes.

However, most days the writers at the Anti-bogan page simply spend their time labelling people that they don’t like as ‘bigots’. Which basically means that the Anti-bogan page aligns neatly with the dictionary definition of the word.

Good for it.

But, just for the record, it is not bigotry to express strongly held views. Nor is it bigotry to explain why the strongly held views of others are flawed or incorrect. It is bigotry to completely reject other people’s views out of hand, without offering any reason why.

Bleeding hearts do this all the time. They engage in a special form of bigotry masked behind completely unfounded ‘tolerance’. In order to feel good, they reject the nasty truth without any reason or justification. And when it comes to Islam, this bigotry of nice is actually suicidal. Australians will die because of it.

The Anti-bogan webpage perpetuates this suicidal and irrational view of Islam. It’s gone into overdrive in the last week to defend the ‘Religion of Peace’. And it’s been doing it for quite some time.

Hence its decision to publish this open letter to Bendigo City Councillor, Elise Chapman, earlier this year. Suleiman Ali Baig wrote it to express his ire about comments she made regarding her concern about rape and Islam.

And in this letter were the following words:

‘rape is categorically forbidden in Islam’

Now that came as a little surprise to me. Because rape is not categorically forbidden in Islam.

At least, it’s not categorically forbidden in the ‘categorically forbidden’ kind of way, but in the ‘it’s ok to keep a sexual slave’ kind of way.

And don’t take my word for it. Take an Islamic scholar’s viewpoint. Like Muhammad Saalih Al-Munajjid. He’s a shaykh and he runs the website, in which curious Muslims ask him tricky questions about all sorts of moral issues.

And one of them has just happened to raise the curly issue of whether a Muslim man could still have sex with his wife if he was also having a good time with his slave girl.

It’s really not a bad question. It’s also particularly relevant, considering that the United Nations believes the Islamic State has taken 1,500 women captive and turned them into sexual slaves. And female British jihadis have wasted no time in setting up brothels where these captive women relieve the stress of the men after they take a spot of leave from the frontline. One does need to recuperate after a hard day’s work hacking heads off.

And the answer of the good Shaykh Al-Munajjid is good news for the boys.

In short, it is this: the wife has no right to object to her husband owning female slaves or to having intercourse with them. And I’m not making that up. It’s a word for word quote from an Islamic scholar who is alive and well today.

In a rather longer explanation, Shaykh Al-Munajjid reasons that Mohammad had a slave girl called Mariam and that she bore him a son. He goes on to say that as a result the ancient Islamic scholars are unanimous in their agreement that it is fine and dandy to own female slaves. And to sleep with them. In fact, anyone who says otherwise is a sinner.

I guess that means Suleiman Ali Baig has committed a heinous crime against the Islamic faith by writing to Councillor Chapman to state that rape is categorically forbidden in Islam.

Of course, I’m sure that somewhere in the back of a dusty Sharia lawbook some other Muslim scholar will bring forth a handy get out of jail free card. Presumably on page 782 it says that sleeping with slave girls is not rape. Probably because slaves girls are slaves and therefore not entitled to the protection against rape that Muslim women ‘enjoy’.

But that doesn’t actually make it ‘not rape’. Even if Allah knows best.

Slave girls are slaves. That means that they have no freedom. Including of their own body. They certainly can’t say no to their bearded master when the time comes. In fact, they technically don’t even have the power to say yes either. They are denied both dignity and the opportunity to love.

They just have to submit themselves sexually whenever the call arises, regardless of whether they want to or not.

That’s not just rape of the body. It’s rape of the mind as well. And Islamic scholars old and new all categorically state that this is lawful because they redefine rape to mean whatever they want it to mean.

Now, lest anyone jump to bigoted conclusions, I’m not suggesting that all Muslim men engage in rape. In fact, the vast majority of them don’t.

But those who believe that Mohammad’s example is worth following necessarily must accept the idea that the keeping of sexual slaves is permissible. As a result, it is perfectly reasonable for Councillor Chapman to express her concern about rape and the growth of Islam in the town she represents.

And conversely, it must be noted that those ‘Muslims’ who reject these beliefs regarding sexual slavery are actually rejecting Mohammad and Islam. And to the extent that they do, they are not actually Muslim at all. Happily, it seems that Suleiman Ali Baig is well and truly down this path, even despite his misguided but understandable desire to protect his cultural heritage, flawed as it may be.

Let’s hope he keeps walking down that path.

By the way, if you want to see Shaykh Al-Munajjid in action talking about the sexual duties of the wife, click on the video below.

Granted, it might not be rape. But it’s not respect either.

And given that this is the attitude towards the wife, one can only pity the sexual slave.

Author: Bernard Gaynor

Bernard Gaynor is a married father of nine children. He has a background in military intelligence, Arabic language and culture and is an outspoken advocate of conservative and family values.

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  1. Muslims are also allowed to have sex with their dead wives and I wonder would that be classed as rape since she can’t give consent or would it not be rape because she couldn’t object to it?

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  2. I have been researching Islam for a month. All the anti-Islam sites have photo’s, video’s, article after article on why Islam is not good for western society. The Left side of politics( anti bogan ) just says your racist. No articles on why I should be for Islam. Where are articles on how peaceful female genital mutilation is? If they are a hate site, why are not the photo’s of the muslim protestors waving we will kill all the infidels on there? I find that extremely racist! I read a lot of articles by the amesty internation, save the children fund and world health organisation. They are not happy with Islam either, put them on your hate page , antibogan.

    I point out how horrible Islam is from the humanitarian angle, no one has called me a racist or bigot. They actual listen and get concerned. Focus on reliable facts, stay calm, no foul language. let them know that they don’t have to be politically correct, you believe in freedom of speech. People really want to talk, haven’t met anyone who disagrees with me so far.

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  3. I recently popped over to the anti-bogan page and it did not take me long for me to realize I was in the company of some rather hateful fools, who will judge and label anybody at the drop of a hat. While infusing their followers with hatred towards one person these stupid hot heads purposefully displayed his phone number, most likely with the hope every half cocked follower will go off and harrass him.

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    • Yes Chase, they are a most hateful and hypocritical bunch of bigots (in the true sense of the word, as put succinctly in the above article) that will gladly manipulate their naïve and angry followers to harass and attack any with differing opinions. They falsely and deliberately equate Patriotism with Racism, and Freedom with Hate – akin to their comrades in the globally-loathed Antifa movement!

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      • Andy, Disregard the part about Anti-bogan displaying a phone number.. on a closer look I got that wrong and apoligise to them,but it does not take away from the fact they are a very mislead and brainwashed bunch and unfortunately our universities are the source of this warped thinking.

  4. In traditional Catholic countries, false religions like islam were only tolerated when they do nothing to disturb the public peace. As soon as they cause any disturbance whatsoever, all toleration ends – and steps to drive the dangerous savages out become not only permissible, but in some cases even a duty.

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  5. Meanwhile, back in the real world, a certain reader’ wife regularly advises said reader and their offspring that she is not a slave. And she backs it up with some serious inaction. And we have reluctantly learned that if we want to eat, wear clean undies or socks, borrow her car etc then we have to consistently treat her as an equal or better (even though, technically, I paid for everything). And I’ve never tried to “have” her when she is “by the stove” because she cooks with those heavy Bessemer pots and pans. As a result, said offspring have all grown up fit and healthy, well adjusted and with a desire to contribute. And they pay board which is spent on “champagne and overseas holidays for Mum” apparently. And if they fail to pay board not only will there no “champagne and overseas holidays for Mum” but there really will be only bread and jam in the larder.
    And I’m reassured that she tells me that even if the Muslim wife abandoned her stove to attend to her husband’ desires she’d be back before the two-minute noodles were done.

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  6. Ah yes…..the Antibogan. They have been placing my facbook profile and comments up on their anti-human page for several years now!

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    • They’ve done that to me as well!

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